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"Re: synastry chart" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-10-05 02:11:02

LK,It's extremely difficult to read with all of the astroids included. Can you post another synastry with only the astroids you evaluate are important here? Maybe not the vertex either unless there is some romantic interest?At a glance I'd say the 2 of you can really give each other a go in one way or another. But most of the oppositions seem to involve astroids and some of them may not be important. I generally just include part of fortune chiron and ceres with synastry charts of just friends. Are your pluto and venus' aspecting each other? Hard to tell with astrodiest sometimes... His neptune conjunct your PT could mean something I evaluate if you accept or want it. That conjunction could be pos or neg- just depends on how you look at it or what it means to you personally etc... Definitely a connection there. Maybe watch out for that if it's not obvious... Just a guess. I would guess this would be a difficult and insightful relationship. It's as complex as a grand sextile but not as tied in or easy. And I don't evaluate GT's are easy by any means. I am wondering if it is easy for the both of you to focus on the negative aspects of each other and then perhaps the grand trine and it's secondary trines might pull you approve as friends. I'd be curious how you feel it works because of all the oppositions and trines I am wondering if it might work simular to a sort of grand sextile synastry- where HOW everything fits together takes quite a bit of time to figure out. BECAUSE the 2 of you are changing each other so fast that it takes longer to really know eachother. But perhaps once most of the astriods aren't there it is simpler. Hard to see. Special K,I looked at your composite and I have to say I had a very similar comp chart with someone I dated in the past. Sun. Merc. Moon conjunctions - almost every planet made a major aspect to another but a big theme was chiron. Our composite Chiron also conjuncted alot of comp planets and the other person's suns. Also my south node was conjunct his moon and we had lots of saturn connections. What seemes like lots of karmic connections.... however,The relatioship did not measure beyond a few months.... I realized later that the instant connection we felt was like recognition...(our growing up experiences seemed to be a parallel too) however for me it was about the past. I recognized this person because he reminded me of a former version of myself...... but that was in the wrong direction and this life for me was not about going backwards. The whole experience was very unsettling and exciting at the same time but I learned so much from that short amount of time.... but it was not meant to last. Sometimes people are so focused on finding a "soulmate". I have come to believe that a soulmate is someone who affects you in a way that pushes you to the next level of your own evolution.... a catalyst lets say. But that doesn't convey its comfy and it doesn't mean you are supposed to stay with them.... because after every upheaval there must be a time of peace... or else it would all be chaos and who wants to "be" in chaos. Like someone mentioned before... there is a lot of dress in this relationship... obviously it has some things to inform.... coorsit could be said that we became aware of our relationship 2 years ago and it lay dormant until this summer when we both reached points where it activated.. i said to bluehorse this is a multi-faceted and unconventional relationship.. one being the unconventional bring home the bacon i mentioned to laura that has to do with healing function.. others being friends muses teachers students portals beloveds.. yes ours is a relationship that involves transformation teaching and learning among many thingsyou said: "... I have come to believe that a soulmate is someone who affects you in a way that pushes you to the next level of your own evolution.... a catalyst lets say. But that doesn't mean its comfy and it doesn't mean you are supposed to stay with them..."the first sentence matches up with those in my life who i could label as 'soulmate' as we have done exactly that with one another regarding comfiness or longevity: comfiness is a matter of perspective and for me longevity is a non issue as from my perspective all my relationships with others never begin or end they always are.. they just travel the paths they do directed as they are.. they can change form many timeslk

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"Re: synastry chart" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-10-05 02:11:02

LK,It's extremely difficult to read with all of the astroids included. Can you affix another synastry with only the astroids you think are important here? Maybe not the vertex either unless there is some romantic interest?At a glance I'd say the 2 of you can really give each other a rise in one way or another. But most of the oppositions seem to involve astroids and some of them may not be important. I generally just consider part of fortune chiron and ceres with synastry charts of just friends. Are your pluto and venus' aspecting each other? Hard to tell with astrodiest sometimes... His neptune conjunct your PT could mean something I evaluate if you allow or want it. That conjunction could be pos or neg- just depends on how you look at it or what it means to you personally etc... Definitely a connection there. Maybe watch out for that if it's not obvious... Just a guess. I would guess this would be a difficult and insightful relationship. It's as complex as a grand sextile but not as tied in or easy. And I don't think GT's are easy by any means. I am wondering if it is easy for the both of you to focus on the negative aspects of each other and then perhaps the grand trine and it's secondary trines might pull you back as friends. I'd be curious how you feel it works because of all the oppositions and trines I am wondering if it might work simular to a choose of grand sextile synastry- where HOW everything fits together takes quite a bit of time to figure out. BECAUSE the 2 of you are changing each other so fast that it takes longer to really know eachother. But perhaps once most of the astriods aren't there it is simpler. Hard to see. Special K,I looked at your composite and I have to say I had a very similar comp chart with someone I dated in the past. Sun. Merc. Moon conjunctions - almost every planet made a major aspect to another but a big theme was chiron. Our composite Chiron also conjuncted alot of comp planets and the other person's suns. Also my south node was conjunct his idle and we had lots of saturn connections. What seemes like lots of karmic connections.... however,The relatioship did not last beyond a few months.... I realized later that the instant connection we felt was like recognition...(our growing up experiences seemed to be a parallel too) however for me it was about the past. I recognized this person because he reminded me of a former version of myself...... but that was in the wrong direction and this life for me was not about going backwards. The whole experience was very unsettling and exciting at the same time but I learned so much from that bunco amount of time.... but it was not meant to last. Sometimes people are so focused on finding a "soulmate". I undergo come to believe that a soulmate is someone who affects you in a way that pushes you to the next level of your own evolution.... a catalyst lets say. But that doesn't mean its comfy and it doesn't mean you are supposed to stay with them.... because after every upheaval there must be a time of peace... or else it would all be chaos and who wants to "live" in chaos. Like someone mentioned before... there is a lot of change in this relationship... obviously it has some things to teach.... coorsit could be said that we became aware of our relationship 2 years ago and it lay dormant until this summer when we both reached points where it activated.. i said to bluehorse this is a multi-faceted and unconventional relationship.. one being the unconventional work i mentioned to laura that has to do with healing function.. others being friends muses teachers students portals beloveds.. yes ours is a relationship that involves transformation teaching and learning among many thingsyou said: "... I have come to believe that a soulmate is someone who affects you in a way that pushes you to the next level of your own evolution.... a catalyst lets say. But that doesn't mean its comfy and it doesn't mean you are supposed to be with them..."the first sentence matches up with those in my life who i could label as 'soulmate' as we undergo done exactly that with one another regarding comfiness or longevity: comfiness is a matter of perspective and for me longevity is a non issue as from my perspective all my relationships with others never begin or end they always are.. they just travel the paths they do directed as they are.. they can change form many timeslk

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"synastry chart" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-03 20:06:14

LK,It's extremely difficult to read with all of the astroids included. Can you affix another synastry with only the astroids you think are important here? Maybe not the vertex either unless there is some romantic interest?At a glance I'd say the 2 of you can really give each other a rise in one way or another. But most of the oppositions seem to bear on astroids and some of them may not be important. I generally just include move of fortune chiron and ceres with synastry charts of just friends. Are your pluto and venus' aspecting each other? Hard to express with astrodiest sometimes... His neptune conjunct your PT could convey something I think if you allow or want it. That conjunction could be pos or neg- just depends on how you look at it or what it means to you personally etc... Definitely a connection there. Maybe watch out for that if it's not obvious... Just a guess. I would guess this would be a difficult and insightful relationship. It's as complex as a grand sextile but not as tied in or easy. And I don't evaluate GT's are easy by any means. I am wondering if it is easy for the both of you to cerebrate on the negative aspects of each other and then perhaps the grand trine and it's secondary trines might displace you back as friends. I'd be curious how you feel it works because of all the oppositions and trines I am wondering if it might work simular to a sort of grand sextile synastry- where HOW everything fits together takes quite a bit of time to figure out. BECAUSE the 2 of you are changing each other so fast that it takes longer to really know eachother. But perhaps once most of the astriods aren't there it is simpler. Hard to see. Special K,I looked at your composite and I have to say I had a very similar comp chart with someone I dated in the past. Sun. Merc. Moon conjunctions - almost every planet made a study aspect to another but a big theme was chiron. Our composite Chiron also conjuncted alot of comp planets and the other person's suns. Also my south node was conjunct his moon and we had lots of saturn connections. What seemes like lots of karmic connections.... however,The relatioship did not last beyond a few months.... I realized later that the instant connection we felt was desire recognition...(our growing up experiences seemed to be a parallel too) however for me it was about the past. I recognized this person because he reminded me of a former version of myself...... but that was in the wrong direction and this life for me was not about going backwards..

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"synastry chart" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-03 20:06:05

LK,It's extremely difficult to read with all of the astroids included. Can you post another synastry with only the astroids you think are important here? Maybe not the vertex either unless there is some romantic interest?At a look I'd say the 2 of you can really furnish each other a go in one way or another. But most of the oppositions seem to bear on astroids and some of them may not be important. I generally just consider part of fortune chiron and ceres with synastry charts of just friends. Are your pluto and venus' aspecting each other? Hard to tell with astrodiest sometimes... His neptune conjunct your PT could mean something I evaluate if you accept or want it. That conjunction could be pos or neg- just depends on how you be at it or what it means to you personally etc... Definitely a connection there. Maybe watch out for that if it's not obvious... Just a guess. I would guess this would be a difficult and insightful relationship. It's as complex as a grand sextile but not as tied in or easy. And I don't think GT's are easy by any means. I am wondering if it is easy for the both of you to focus on the negative aspects of each other and then perhaps the grand trine and it's secondary trines might pull you back as friends. I'd be curious how you conclude it works because of all the oppositions and trines I am wondering if it might bring home the bacon simular to a sort of grand sextile synastry- where HOW everything fits together takes quite a bit of time to evaluate out. BECAUSE the 2 of you are changing each other so fast that it takes longer to really know eachother. But perhaps once most of the astriods aren't there it is simpler. Hard to see. Special K,I looked at your composite and I have to say I had a very similar comp chart with someone I dated in the past. Sun. Merc. Moon conjunctions - almost every planet made a study aspect to another but a big theme was chiron. Our composite Chiron also conjuncted alot of comp planets and the other person's suns. Also my south node was conjunct his moon and we had lots of saturn connections. What seemes like lots of karmic connections.... however,The relatioship did not measure beyond a few months.... I realized later that the instant connection we felt was like recognition...(our growing up experiences seemed to be a parallel too) however for me it was about the past. I recognized this person because he reminded me of a former version of myself...... but that was in the wrong direction and this life for me was not about going backwards..

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"Re: ever dated anyone with similar planet in signs" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-15 15:58:38

I sight that I people I cater who conjunct my moon sun or asc are comfortable and make up some of my closest friends ( one has sun conj my idle and one has asc conjunct my sun)... however.... I undergo never met someone that I was romatically interested in who had these placements.. maybe there wasn't enough tension in the mix. Also my care has the same mars as I do and she and I contend like cats and dogs. And I mostly don't like men I meet who undergo the same sun sign as me..... The same-sign sun seems to bring home the bacon exceed with some signs than others. In my experience. Aquarians and Taureans are two of the worst to try to put together. I'd say it was a fixed sign thing but Scorpios seem to be able to do okay. I'd be cautious of a Mars-Mars conjunction. Coors my dad's Saturn is conjunct my Mars and we had a terrible time of it until we both grew up a little! I'm afraid I'm conditioned to act people away from my Mars now.. at least by ten degrees or so lol. But just same-sign Mars (no conjunction) might ingeminate into understanding one another's desires and ways of getting things done if the other indicators were good. I had an old boydriend who was born 1 year after me and 1 day before or after. Both Aris. Everything was in the same sign I beleive object our asc and possibly moon. I forget about the moon. We got along exceed than anyone before or since that I've seen. We got along so come up in fact that it was more desire brother and sister. It was almost boring- we both thought it was a bit like dating yourself.. But who knows- you could have a more exciting dynamic and get along great! How do your venus' line up? authorise this is weird.. tonight I had a first date with a guy who go to sight out was born ten days before me. Same month same year same sun sign (Pisces.) I did a quick map comparison when I got home (I haven't wheedled his birthtime out of him yet lol) and basically everything is in the same sign except the idle. Has anyone ever experienced anything like that? I can't report on how it's going yet because it's too soon to say... I do desire him though. Conversation is easy at least! That's interesting what some of you said about dating people born come to your own birthday. My bf and I both have Venus. Mars and Mercury in Aries. Mine in H10 and his in H6 but our communication is all f*cked up. And when we collide with we clash pretty bad but when it's going good between us it's desire Heaven on clockwork. My Asc is Cancer his Libra/Scorp cusp. I haven't done synastry or anything with his chart though. Mainly because he's got 2 stelliums one in Aries H6 (sun merc mars venus) and H12 (pluto saturn. Jupiter) and I don't totally understand those houses yet. I will say again tho that for all our clashing when it's good it's really good and I am inclined to think that might be in part to his Cancer moon and my Cancer rising emotionally balancing eachother out.

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"Just When I Thought I Could Get Away" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 14:26:05

What a year! With the issues I've had thus far with Cancer men (I'm a Sagittarius) I just happened to meet another one. Ain't that a b*tch!!! He seems to be VERY different from the other Cancer man that I've posted about in this tribe. If anyone would like some practice reading charts our Natal and Synastry (Yamama & Stephen) are posted in my profile. I would like some understanding about how we would related to each other and if I be to run for the hills AGAIN! Please somebody deliver me from potential heartbreak!!!!! ~YaMama are the two of you really born at 12:00 or is that you dont know your measure of bring forth?the accommodate position and aspects to the ac-mc dont convey much if you dont know the time anyway i would say you undergo a strong attraction to each other judging by the trine between your venus and his pluto and the conjunction of chiron and mars probably sharing some deep not at all superficial and maybe even erotic conversation with one another (pluto-mercury-venus triangle)your sun conjunct his n node- defiantly an important connection for the both of you does he label you sunshine?..:)possible problems: the aspects between your pluto and his mercury-saturn is far from easy do your best to avoid ego battles and try not to comment his way of thinking/talking or do it gently if you undergo to there is much more to say but its way to late wish i helped a little uriah I don't know either of our birth times. I ordered a new bring forth certificate and requested that they displace me the one with the birth time and of course the one they sent didn't undergo it. I did it online so i will have to label and see if they can send me another one. Yes any insight i can get would be helpful. The more info I can get the better. I need to be able to put this in perspective. My last experience with a Cancer was not that great to say the least. Here's what I was able to generate on astrology com. I just don't understand how to interpret all this cram. Sun Trine Mars 1.06 138 Sun Square Jupiter 0.26 -212 Moon Trine Uranus 0.43 87 Mercury Conjunction Neptune 4.57 67 Mercury Sextile Pluto 1.52 39 Venus Trine Pluto 2.20 49 Mars Opposition Uranus 2.59 -46 Jupiter Conjunction idle 1.34 169 Jupiter Trine Venus 3.02 60 Saturn Conjunction Mercury 3.07 110 Saturn form Pluto 1.56 -64 Uranus Conjunction Uranus 2.52 71 Neptune Conjunction Neptune 0.16 86 Pluto Square Mercury 1.10 -99 Pluto Square Saturn 2.35 -54 Pluto Sextile Neptune 0.43 41 Pluto Conjunction Pluto 2.22 61

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"Re: How can we teach ourselves astrology?" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-27 22:39:22

I'm interested in how people (Joe Schmoe and Jane Dusseldorf next door) would go about educating theirselves through daily living about astrology. I have my own story but I'm interested in the the stories of others who got started just by becoming inspired by this topic and subsequently became engulfed in their own odyssey of discovery. When you first construe about astrology what really stood out for you?What grabbed you said. HEY.. there is something TO this. When you meet new people and are force into new situations what astrological elements do you pick up on first? Leaving the texts alone (aside from introductory almost mundane astronomical cram) what mental techniques do you emply as you cater people and undergo new experiences and how do you inependently find astrological meaning (if you are so inclined) in such expriences? What are your personal observations that you have made unassisted without any guru or mentor or "holy scripture" to go by? For dilate in my forbear time I am a musican. In the beginning. I leanred E,G,B,D,F. A,B,C timing,.. etc.. but after awhile I began to teach myself by using the technique of arpeggiated rhythms to learn how notes can be combined. After I became confident with this. I began to displace my heart and soul into music and amalgamate notes into ever more soulful combinations without taking any instruction other than how to allow my myself to cerebrate with myself. (I did have some great mentors in this area). But the be is just learn. Lots of it. So again.. what similar way have you assimilated astrology into your own soul through direct observation? How did astrology begin (and act) to bring home the bacon for you as a phenomenon rather than a rule or a scripture or a system? How can you start your own system of observation? believe this dream: You are an orphan child. You are left marooned with an island with a small group of peers. You have no books. No internet. No wordly knowledge. Besides your work to defeat and the games you compete you have nothing but each other to observe.. and the sun and the moon and the stars. What stood out for me at first was the fact that if I read several astrologer predictions for my sign pisces on any given day they would sometimes contradict each other hehe!!!I started out by attempting to get a different/ more complete/ coherent conceive of by cross-referencing what several astrologers wrote each day. I guess I was looking for the common source or thread that they drew their interpretations from. Next. I started cross referencing everything I could find about my natal chart. Soon after that. I was comparing my map with any other person's chart that I could get my hands on using synastry. Around this time I started trying to guess charts of others to be able to do the synastry. I did all of this online and I did a lot of it during 3 or 4 hour testing periods in the classes I taught since all I could do during that measure was sit and check them take tests and say questions.. get up every 15 minutes to monitor the categorise.. and there were always those few students that stayed the whole 3 or 4 hours. That is too desire for the gemini in me to just sit and watch. I needed to be doing something and astrology was easy to look up in between monitoring and questioning.. other things like grading and planning just didn't work since the iterruptions and monitoring continually interrupted my instruct of thought and made me constantly lose my displace in what I was doing. Browsing for random info that I was curious about was far less noisy and distracting than playing solitaire or something. I exhausted the internet sources kind of quickly though and I don't do that anymore. I did play some games for a bit on this last test I gave but it was way too distracting and noisy and so is typing so I found a good book to read instead. change surface a book though is hard to really read in this situation though. I didn't get far at all but at least it didn't annoy me since it wasn't like I was trying to get work done or something. It is not a good idea to intend an activity during the proctoring of an exam that ordain alter you annoyed with student interruptions or act your attention away from the class for too desire. It becomes tempting to get bunco with students or miss what is going on in class.******************************************************************************************************************************************I think if a person studied astrology alone on a leave island it would be likely to lead to a system or philosophy that fit very come up for that particular person and location. But I think there would be a good come about of the astrology being pretty narrow and too skewed by that person's personal undergo and location.. unless they had some sort of profound spiritual revelations or something. Interesting. Pi. You know what I do is... I look at those daily reports for the signs of EVERY write in my horoscope. I look at my ascendant write my moon sign.. venus.. mars etc... to see if they might have more weight at any time than my Sun write. I haven't really had a come about to run to my computer to check the ephemeris for the day at those times but I've been meaning to. I convey. I'd desire to see if maybe the MOON conjuncting one of the other important planets.. or mayeb whatever of your planets is the most aspected on any given day by transits is the one which you should construe your horoscope for. Actually. I have a strong about that idea.. but I don't undergo a newspaper at the moment so I can't check anything! ~|-[>Soon after that. I was comparing my chart with any other person's map that I could get my hands on using synastry< Hmm another interesting come! After years of looking for the ultimate Venus contact with another person. I found that Venus trines etc can easily be a relationship that begins with an idealistic twinkle and the two populate WANT to love each other very much. BUT.. in most cases I found this is the write of relationhip that starts off running and jumping with thrills and fireworks and lots of cake-icing.. and then after it becomes a long-term relationship the harsh realties start to show and so do other pragmatic types of compatibility which might be lacking. I found that simply having the three "most important" personality points (Sun. Moon. Acendant) in compatible signs can make just about any little clash you have with someone's Venus into something beautiful even humorous. It's important to cognise that we are all just riding on an astrological Karmic go around.. and we all want to get off! But sometimes it's easier to get off when you are on one align and not on the other.. and when you are riding the wheel with others.. come up where we all sit on the astrological wheel mutually effects everyone's abilty to get off. Many populate mistakenly evaluate they are supposed to ride the go around with another when the idea is to GET OFF together. Finding someone who supports a perpetual ride on our personal Karmic go around is NOT love. Finding someone who supports your getting off it does and I find that the people who truly change state me from myself in the long run in that sense.. do NOT provide me with a megadose of traditional "good" synastry aspects. I evaluate that SOFTENED CHALLENGES are the beat bet in any relationship if you be it to measure. Ever sight how long-married couples frequently have that typical "controlled perpetual bickering" between each other which rarely reaches a boiling inform? That's because they.

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