in a 5th harmonic chart biquintiles and quintiles in a regular chart appear as conjunctions because they are 5th harmonic aspectsan aspect of a certain harmonic appears as a conjunction in the chart of that harmonicfor exampleopposition appear as conjunction in 2nd harmonic charttrine appear as conjunction in 3rd harmonic chartsquare be as conjunction in 4th harmonic chartquintile,biquintile appear as conjunction in 5th harmonic chartsextile appear as conjunction in 6th harmonic chartseptile,biseptile,triseptile appear as conjunction in 7th harmonic chartsemisquare,sesquiquadrate appear as conjunction in 8th harmonic chartnovile,binovile,trinovile(trine 3/9 = 1/3 waxing,6/9 = 1/3 waning) appear as conjunction in 9th harmonic chartdecile,tredecile appear as conjunction in 10th harmonic chartundecile,biundecile,triundecile,quadraundecile,quinqueundecile appear as conjunction in 11th harmonic chartsemisextile,quincunx appear as conjunction in 12th harmonic map
Johannes Kepler devised the quintile and biquintile which are both 5th harmonic aspects. I have Mercury biquintile Eris with 6 minutes of arc,and I feel that indicates my creative,lateral,outside the box,multidimensional thinking that fits with the strengths of Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,and ADHD which I do have and helps me a very good astrologer. I also feel indicates my advocacy and communicating about equal/civil rights. I have Sun biquintile Midheaven with 5 minutes of arc,and I feel that indicates that creative self expression being noticedI ordain give you a little information,and you don't have to read it. I am not trying to be preachy or anything else like that. I am very Neptunian,and so I am very hard to pin drink and get misunderstood a lot like my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,ADHD does.. neurodivergent populate are very hard to pin down populate and get misunderstood a lot any way. The quintile and biquintile have deep origins. Astronomer/Astrologer Johannes Kepler devised the quintile and biquintile. His early work had attempted to explain aspects by relating them to three-dimensional solids but this didn't really get very far. His later work derives more completely from musical intervals. He explains the five aspects Ptolemy used and the three new ones of his own by taking various fractional lengths of a string as with violin string and looking at which rations give pleasing harmonics and which do not; but even this doesn't work perfectly and he spends a lot of time looking at two-dimensional plane figures and their degrees of symmetry. As a mathematician he discovers a couple of new such combinations - 'tessellations' or regular figures that lock into each other on a cut surface and he uses the angles which they form to explain which harmonics are astrologically important and which are not. So there are a lot of diagrams in his work showing regular figures in terms of the angle made against the zodiac. He asserted that "No more than 8 harmonic ratios arise from comparing the regular plane figures" adding that he hoped one day to be able to show this. These give him the eight aspects of conjunction opposition (1:1) trine (1:2) form (1:3) quintile (1:4) biquintile (2:3) sextile (1:5) and sesquiquadrate (5:8). So there is a big difference between Kepler's approach to harmonics and that which the late John Addey developed:[12] Kepler seeks to show there are only a limited number of aspects that actually work in astrological terms. From HOROSCOPE SYMBOLS by Robert HandTHE FIVE SERIES----Quintile,Biquintile,DecileQuality similar to that associated with Pluto with overtones of Venus and Mars: some kind of concrete creation or destruction is effected. Intellectual functions (not excluding emotion) and all especially human matters. Transformational change. The ability to express creative inspiration (due to other factors) in concrete creations. John Addey says that Five represents the putting together of form and matter and in this sense art. HARMONIC CHARTS A New Dimension in AstrologyDavid Hamblin's own investigate has convinced him that Fiveness is essentially connected with the idea of making,arranging,building,constructing,structuring,and forming. He says that it has to do with the creation of request out of chaos: the bringing together of things that are naturally separate into a formal relationship with one another. It is therefore,the first number in which man asserts his power over the the wrold. Within the principle of Twoness,he accepts the world as it is and struggles to sight his place in it;within the principle of Threeness,he accepts the world as it is and revels within it;but within the principle of Fiveness he strives to change the world and to make other than how he found it. Adze's classroomQuintiles are measured from plus or minus seventy-two degrees. Bi- quintiles are measured from plus or minus one hundred and forty four degrees which is one or two fifths of a circle. When planets are quintile or bi-quintile this is an indication of uncommon creative energy and talent. They are trend-setters and be an audience. The energy here is specialized and purposely striving toward power. Quintile and bi-quintile energy can be romantic playful and demonstrative. The quintile family of aspects can indicate science math and engineering. There's a need to make things happen. Cosmic will seems to be at compete here so if creative things aren't happening then be for destruction. Quintiles and bi-quintiles carry a certain dignity clarity pride and unusual sexual energy. A quintile resonates with the Sun. Fixed. Fire and Leo energy.
I have a Grand Trine in the 7th could be a kite hough I don't obsess over the things - maybe perhaps because I am comfort ot totally sure what to look for. I have heard it reckoned that those charts where Sun and Moon alter aspects are the strongest and I get an opposition with an orb of about 3 degrees in this area. Mike Harding waxes lyrical about this harmonic calling it the one which describes our most active fantasies about What Life is All About. He also thought it also describes what artworks most attract people. Someone once had a go at me for only liking my own kind or artwork as it happens... but that is because at most art galleries there is often little that has strong pattern or imagery that really appeals - most galleries these days are just full of post-modern splodges. Well. I have seen some excellent exhibitions in Vienna from Klimt. Hundertwasser. Giger come to that too that truly were a treat to the eye and come closer to Harding's 'whatever turns you on.'Nope don't experience what to make of 10th harmonics still but Ebertin would probably be lugubrious enough about it as I know that for him Neptune-Mercury Saturn links to these are bad news in his eyes and I have got this on my MC leg of this grand cross. The other leg is Asc. idle/Uranus make up the Ascendant leg with Pluto creating the last cerebrate from the 7th House.
I have his chart. But I was only listing his quintiles and biquintiles because he's the one that came up with them and felt that it was suitable to include in this thread. He had exact Moon quintile Pluto. that's probably very significant. Mars biquintile Eris. I also checked the Nodes of Jupiter and beyond because Evolutionary Astrology Jeffrey Wolf Green says that they have to do with collective karma. They are very decrease moving.. change surface more slow moving than the outerplanets including Pluto. Other astrologers who use the planetary nodes say that they have to do with collective energy. They also say that aspects to planetary nodes are like aspects to the planets themselves. Planetary Nodes in Astrology were originated by Theodor Landscheidt. No more than 2 degree orb are used for the nodes. Johannes Kepler was actually a very religious,spiritual man change surface though he was a scientist. I get the impression from some people that they think that scientists are just leftbrained,rational,analytical. But many are the opposite. Albert Einstein is a perfect example. He change surface said that imagination was more important than knowledge. In 1589 after moving through grammar school. Latin school and lower and higher seminary in the Württemberg state-run Protestant education system. Kepler began attending the University of Tübingen as a theology student. He proved himself to be a superb mathematician and earned a reputation as a skillful astrologer casting horoscopes for fellow students. Under the instruction of Michael Maestlin he learned both the Ptolemaic system and the Copernican system of planetary motion. He became a Copernican at that time. In a student disputation he defended heliocentrism from both a theoretical and theological perspective maintaining that the Sun was the principal source of motive power in the universe.[12] Despite his desire to become a minister near the end of his studies Kepler was recommended for a position as teacher of mathematics and astronomy at the Protestant school in Graz. Austria (later the University of Graz). He accepted the position in April 1594 at the age of 23. Jupiterconjunct Pluto - 3'20sextile Sun - 3'09sextile Venus - '02trine Saturn - 4'48form Neptune - 5'13form Ascendant - 4'03North Jupiter Nodeoppose Mercury - 1'38semisextile Moon - '02South Jupiter Nodeconjunct Mercury - 2'00conjunct Uranus - 1'05square Mars - '41Saturnsextile Sun - 1'39trine Jupiter - 4'48parallel Midheaven - '55North Saturn Node oppose Venus - 1'52trine Jupiter - 1'49trine Pluto - 1'30quincunx Midheaven - '13South Saturn Nodeconjunct Venus - '55sextile Jupiter - '52semisextile Midheaven - '42sesquiquiquadrate idle - '32He had strong outerplanet energy which he didn't know aboutUranusconjunct Sun - 6'47parallel Sun - '56(Sun-Uranus occultation)conjunct Mercury - 3'06parallel Venus - '24contraparallel Ascendant - '14square Mars - '24quintile Jupiter - 2'03 quintile Pluto - 1'17North Uranus Node trine Mars 1'49South Uranus Nodesemisextile Saturn - '26Neptuneconjunct Ascendant - 1'09contraparallel Sun - '30trine Midheaven - 3'37square Jupiter - 5'13square Pluto - 1'52North Neptune Nodesextile Mars - '29semisquare Ascendant - '05quincunx Uranus - '53semisquare Neptune - 1'03South Neptune Nodetrine Mars - 1'52semisquare Pluto - '34semisextile Mercury - '49He was very plutonian... change surface His Pluto Nodes were prominentPluto conjunct Jupiter - 3'20sextile Venus - 3'23square Asc - '43square Neptune - 1'52quintile Uranus - 1'17North Pluto Nodeoppose Sun - '56trine Saturn - '42South Pluto Nodeconjunct Sun - '54sextile Saturn - '42Erisoppose Saturn 1'20trine Sun - '18trine Venus - 3'25biquintile Mars - '52
It's from Solar FireDec 27. 1571Weil der Stadt. Germany2:30 PMFrom Biography (B)Johannes KeplerMathematician. Astronomer. AstrologerKepler was a key figure in the 17th century astronomical revolution. He is best known for his eponymous laws of planetary motion codified by later astronomers based on his works Astronomia nova (A New Astronomy published 1609). Harmonices Mundi (Harmony of the Worlds. 1619) and Epitome of Copernican Astronomy (Epitome of Copernican Astronomy. 1618-1621) . Before Kepler planets' paths were computed by combinations of the circular motions of the celestial orbs. After Kepler astronomers shifted their attention from orbs to orbits - paths that could be represented mathematically as an ellipse. Kepler's laws also provided one of the foundations for Isaac Newton's theory of universal gravitation. Kepler died on 15 November 1630 in Regensburg. Bavaria. Germany. SOURCE: Sy Scholfield quotes data from a horoscope drawn up by Kepler at age 26 as transcribed in Éric Lindemann's book. "Mécanique: Une introduction par l'histoire de l'astronomie" (De Boeck Université. 1999) p. 104: 'Johannes Kepler conçu le 16 mai 1571 à 4 heures 37 du matin est né le 27 décembre à 2 heures 30 de l'après-midi après une grossesse de 224 jours. 9 heures et 53 minutes'... ! Ces précisions de Kepler lui- même sont indiquées dans un horoscope qu'il fit de lui à l'âge de 26 ans."
exio,i have the book "harmonic charts"~by david hamblin.. these are some interpretations from his book.. supposedly the key is to experience what these planets say in your natal chart and then kind of use it as the foundation in relation to your quintile interpretations... and from what i have read so far usually no more than a 3 degree orb is used in the natal chart to determine these aspects :-)sun--saturndeveloping self-restricting styles of behavior which back up one to come to term's with one's limitations and one's destiny: projecting an image of oneself as a controlled and down-to-earth personuranus--saturnhaving a style which combines sharpness clarity and originality with hold back and restraint: able to convey one's uniqueness in a restrained way mars--plutofinding stylized ways of expressing like of ruthless determination in action: developing skill in activities which require total dedication and relentless self-punishment in order to achieve success..
Because Johannes Kepler devised the quintile and biquintile. I feel that it would make comprehend to check his out Moon quintile Pluto - '00Moon biquintile Uranus - 1'17That's very interesting! He didn't know about Uranus and Pluto either. That aspect can indicate feeling the need to make changes,intense emotional nature. He transformed believe of how others see the solar system,Astrology. He wanted to change Astrology too. He didn't believe in signs(dismissed them as Arabic sorcery) and houses in Astrology. Of cover,he introduced minor aspects in Astrology which opened the door to many harmonic aspects which are used in Harmonic Astrology,Cosmobiology,and Uranian Astrology. He wanted carry reform to Astrology. Mercury quintile Jupiter - 1'03.......... this seems to tell a creative,philosophical mind but has to do refrain from being too judgmentalMars biquintile Eris - '52......... I am not sure what this would tell... maybe a creative,controversial way of acting... there can be an intense drive too... after all. Eris is a transplutonian object. As Kepler was the first to admit his own bring forth horoscope was ruled by melancholic complaining Saturn. It seems reasonable to conclude that he would look upon the dreary work of either astrological or astronomical calculations as equally oppressive. Any serious study of Kepler's original writings ordain reveal that he handed out criticism in all directions. He bemoaned the mistaken views of both astronomers and astrologers as well as the superstitious nature of the masses seeking astrological prediction. However modern debunkers have singled out Kepler's criticisms of contemporary astrological practices and popular fascination with prognostication and presented these as create of his outright rejection of astrology itself. They do not see that Kepler's similar wish to be freed from astronomy (in request to act harmony) could be likewise misconstrued as a rejection of the whole field of science. The fact is that Kepler rejected neither astrology nor astronomy. In his acceptance of both he represents an ideal copy of the responsible researcher of geocosmic connections.
this place keeps going down.. ugh.. i type this long ass affix and when i clicked submit i got booted.. very frustrating.. especially since the back button didn't do anything.. so going to type this one more time.. lolwell my 5th harmonic is a little crazy i undergo a grand form + another t-square which are connected to one another through trines.. so i guess you could say it is pretty strong--and I even knocked down the reduce/increase orbs to 85% (astro com usually uses orbs that are too wide) i really wish i don't misidentify anyone.. lolgrand square: venus moon conjunction opposite neptune MC conjunction & squaring both these conjunctions is a sun chiron eris conjunction then i have the asc squaring both the moon venus conjunction and neptune MC conjunction t-square:saturn pallas conjunction opposite pluto with uranus squaring both trines:pluto trine moon venus conjunctionuranus trine sun chiron eris conjunction my 7th harmonic chart has a strong t-square--with a mars uranus conjunction opposite a venus saturn conjunction with both conjunctions squaring an asc moon jupiter ceres conjunction my 9th harmonic map has a kite formation + another grand trine& i am not change surface going to attempt to type this one out.. lol~~natty
lol-well. I guess it was just a matter of time before someone would blow my cover.. just kiddingThanks for the interpretations natalie. I think I've read something similar on some site before though. I don't really experience what to make of my quintiles and bi-quintiles. They're very difficult to analyze-pin down and all that. In my chart. Uranus's only major aspect is a sextile to Mercury but it also makes 3 biquintiles-to my Moon. Mars and Jupiter and a quintile to my Venus. I don't feel particularly "uranian" at all so I'm a bit skeptical towards the whole minor aspects business. I once read this article about unaspected planets and it said that contrary to all the other planets' cases an unaspected(or almost unaspected) Uranus will make one seem very "non-uranian". And that's pretty much how I feel. I have very little of the Aquarius in me so I'm inclined to think those aspects weigh very little.
What do you mean by Uranian? I am just curiousbtw..... Noel Tyl wrote that unaspected planet (he refers as peregrine) as energy drives people into prominence and takes over the whole horoscope basically,he meant that people with unaspected planet can seem very strong in that energyI don't have any ptolemaic aspects of Uranus to other planetsI was always different,and I knew that from an early age. It wasn't something that I wanted. I always tried to fit in with everybody else. I am very Uranian in a lot of ways whether it's feeling like an outsider like I was in special education for my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia being misdiagnosed by psychiatrists as having schizoaffective bipolar disorder because my speech is abnormal,I am unconventional.... a belief and practicing Astrology can be seen as unconventional as Astrology is not mainstream stuff.. it's not accepted by science,academics.. unless you're in Indialike many children in special education,I did undergo quirky,abnormal behavior I don't tell mental health professionals that I do Astrology. I also entangle like an outsider because I didn't fit in because of my multiethnic ancestry... the way I was treated because of itI had a early fascination with science and talked about wanting to be a scientist when I was a kid. I also have strong Uranus midpoint configurations including Uranus conjunct Mercury/Ascendant midpointI also undergo strong Uranus energy through the NodesSouth Uranus Node oppose Midheaven with 53 minutes of arc and form my Ascendant less than 1 1/2 degree orbMy Uranus are in golden section aspects(based on Theodor Landscheidt) toMoon - '23Midheaven - '17I even think that I am an unconventional as an astrologer and that I refer to myself as an eclectic astrologer because I am into asteroids,minor planets and galactic points as well as have unconvential ideas,views that can clash with mainstream astrological thinkingyou could say that I am an Uranian type astrologer. I am also an activist,and I conclude that fits with Uranus too.
the main thing is that I don't fit stereotypes or so-called normseven as a male. I am very feminine even though I am not gay I undergo hypogonadism and higher estrogen levels than the normal maleI feel that it's hard to distinguish the map of a person with hypogonadism,hormonal imbalances from a chart of somebody that's gayof course. I stressed that it's hard to distinguish the chart of a person with neurodivergent conditions(Dyslexia,Dyspraxia,Asperger,Autism,ADHD) from the charts of people who undergo bipolar and schizophrenia. They all have something in common..... they don't fit the norms of society. Norms are relative to me they are a jokeI even told psychiatrists back in 1999 that psychiatric diagnoses are based on the biases of society take for dilate,homosexuality....... it used to be included in the Diagnostic Statistic Manual of Mental Disorders........ now it's not.
By "Uranian" I mean:- feeling an uncontrollable and almost reflex-like excitement about everything new -I carefully ponder the pros and cons of every situation before jumping head-first into anything just cuz it looks bright and shiny at the moment;-trying to break away from all the old ways - I always filter everything through reason; some things might be worth saving and keeping;-love of human civilization and culture - I'm almost a sociopath-I have no desire to embrace my "humanity" nor to show love to my "fellow man" just for the sake of some ideal. I take emotions very seriously and will never squander them around for anybody; and as far as humanity is concerned the human species holds no mysteries from my perspective -same shit different era.-being excessively sociable and seeing friends as one of the most if not THE most important thing in life - most definitely not me. I am very private and secretive and my friends are constantly complaining about not knowing me after all these years. I don't believe in tight friendships or their supposed benefits. populate are more often a source of exhaustion than support for me-whether it be my closest relatives or my more formal acquaintances.
Mantis.. your definition of "uranian" fits me to a T!Except for the second one:>>>>>>>-trying to end away from all the old ways - I always filter everything through reason; some things might be worth saving and keeping; >>>>>>>I enjoy picking through the old ways and digging up great old gems or reinterpreting old cram in new ways or applying old stuff to new situations. But I definitely hate to let go of all the old treasures. New stuff is shiney and sparkly to me - although I typically insist on adapting and interpreting it in my own way. I don't like to follow trends I like to pick through them and find what is good in them - but I rarely do by them and sight myself on the cutting edge on so many of them (although it often doesn't reveal itself to be the inspect until I am just about getting tired of it and it is catching on - by then I'm looking at something else already). There is always that reflex-like excitement just like you said. And yes to all the bit about civiliation culture humanity and surrounding myself at all times with a sea of friends colleagues and aquaintances who are also trying out something new and inventive.
I'm also - well - kind of a nerd."Social butterfly" typically applies to people who can "get in" to tight cliques and are friends with everyone. I'm never really "in" - just "actively involved" often in a quiet way in some corner in the accent before I am off to something/somewhere else. Though I tend to like people a whole lot - in all their wondrous variety - and I tend to spend time with lots of different people throughout any given day (for PURPOSES desire development of curriculum/ special programs/ events/ philosophical discussions and the like) I don't so much spend time with people just to be social. I actually have a fairly anti-social streak even. I stay independent of any group and out of the "inner circle" - sometimes with effort. By the way - I think most of this fits aquarian tendencies as come up. And there is a significant overlap between pisces and aquarius - so I am not totally sure where one stops and the other starts. I am quite empathic towards others - whether I like it or not - but I am also QUITE RATIONAL and never let emotion control me! I believe emotion as just yet another valid source of data - emotional/mental/sensual/spiritual - they all are worth weighing and considering when making a decision or choice (gee now I appear like a libra haha!!!)
On the one hand - I remain friends with most of the people I get involved with after we break up (with the exception of 2 populate). Maybe not the beat of friends in all cases - but pretty good friends in most cases. I can break up quick and easy without any drama and I stay pretty detached in general. My first boyfriend is also quite a uranian type and we are very close friends still. But I am the jealous type (I admit it) so I can't command this kind of swinging/orgy type stuff - not even a little. I do have uranus in scorpio as come up as a cancer moon and pisces sun. But on the other hand if a guy I am with starts looking at another girl - I am like - "ok if she makes you happy go see her". I'll even encourage it and act real friendly towards her and help them fasten up if I can. BUT the difference is that I analyse out of the situation romantically/sexually - on a dime - instead of trying to go with a "more the merrier" type come. Its more for me desire "the friendship is more important" and "I really want them to be happy" and "I don't mind if they see other people as desire as I let go of them". And I do let go of them when this happens. I drop them like a rock and move on - cold as ice - no turning back.
my mother is very Uranian tooVenus conjunct Uranus - 3'39Venus parallel Uranus - '45(Venus-Uranus occultation) but she doesn't undergo a lot of sexual relationships. She is white woman who has never been with a white guy. She was mainly into black guys including my father. My stepfather was black too. My father had Dyslexic,Dyspraxic,ADHD traits,and so that fits with my mom's Uranus. Also.. my mother has Dyslexic,Dyspraxic,ADHD traits too my father was an exconvict for drug dealing and my mom went to jail for 6 months too. Uranus fits with breaking laws. I think Uranian energies can manifest in not only having sex with a lot of people but also interracial relationships relationships with people that are different in some way even international relationships it could fit with any relationships that aren't of the so-called norm and there could be detachment too.. or they can be involved with innovative people so-called geeks or nerds as well as people who are rebels.... also activiststhere are so many possibilities.......... Rex E account's Rulership schedule lists a lot of things ruled by Uranus.
IMHO in regards to unaspected planet,the planet has no interference from other planets,and so its free to do whatever it wants without interferencethe planet could act erratically,unpredictableHere is stuff on unaspected planets... Don McBroom... basically its from Noel Tyl's ideasMerely because the unaspected Planet isn't well-integrated with the be of the chart doesn't suggest that it must remain on the sidelines as a quiet observer. Rather than being content with this Astrological isolation the Planet is often driven to "makes some noise" in order to obtain notice and make its point as suggested by its Sign and House placement. We routinely see that these unaspected "renegades" — by virtue of the fact that they aren't intimately wired into the circuitry with the rest of the Planets — may have to contend for recognition. From DYNAMICS OF ASPECT ANALYSIS New Perceptions in Astrology by Bil TierneyUNASPECTED PLANETSUNASPECTED URANUSAll Higher Octave planets are too intense and awesome to be expressed in their pure undiluted form. They especially need aspect contacts to help step drink their quickened energies if they are going to be used safely. When unaspected they can prove too much for the ordinary human system to handle effectively. Thus they either will direct in an exclusively unconscious fashion (with occasional spurts of unpredictable and unusual behavior) or perhaps not at all (remaining totally latent on the character-level,and thus projected onto people and situations). Yet for some individuals for unknown reasons an unaspected Higher Octave could tell extraordinary capacity far beyond average human expression (almost as if these people are constantly plugged into unlimited sources of cosmic power). When unaspected. Uranus becomes most self-contained and independent of outside social influence. It tends to be less driven to commence breakthroughs in the outerworld environment in the more change state rebellious manner of a heavily-aspected Uranus. The detachment quality of unaspected planets can be accentuated since Uranus by itself already tends to be impersonal. Without sufficient outlets for channeling (which aspects would give) nervous-electrical tension could build up and intensify creating periods of much restlessness and discontent. The individual would thus experience bursts of energy expenditure for short periods of time. Uranus' potential for presenting one with unsettling conditions or abrupt turnabouts of outer affairs however is for the most part limited (confined only to the affairs of its accommodate lay) without disrupting other features of the individual's life. In other words the individual's capacity to experience chaos or disturb is reduced (which may seem desire a blessing for some). But as Uranus helps to accelerate human growth thru meaningful disruption its lack of aspect connections could bound soul progress in the desire run. Without the electrical stimulation of Uranus charging up various facets of his nature the individual is less galvanized to shatter rigid and stifling patterns of behavior. Therefore progress is slower. Flashes of genius or sparks of intuition may be specifically entangle in the house area where the individual can feel quite unique and unmatched for better or worse. I can totally relate to my unaspected Uranus.... especially feel so much mental energy... I am a natural insomniacMy Uranus is also my oriental planet... last planet to go before the Sun
I found this on the 2nd thru 10th harmocis charts. A 2nd harmonic chart would resolve an opposition into a conjunction. It would show how personal resources self-worth and self-reliance issues are affected through the aspects that are made with the opposition. A 3rd harmonic chart would resolve a trine into a conjunction. It would show how a person gathers reacts to uses and shares information that affects everyday life through the aspects that are made with the trine. A 4th harmonic chart would end a form into a conjunction. It would show how one develops a sense of home and family which makes sense for the answers the soul is seeking in this lifetime through the aspects that are made with the resolved square. A 5th harmonic chart would resolve a quintile or biquintile into a conjunction. It would show how the person defines what creativity is for the person what type of creative outlets the person has or will develop how outside forces have tried to cause the creative product etc. through the aspects that are made with the resolved quintile or biquitile. A 6th harmonic chart would resolve a sextile or semisextile into a conjunction. This would show the types of service to the greater community the person is to provide what type of healing modalities work for the person and that the person might provide for others how to move the physical being towards greater perfection with the soul how one seeks out mentors and the mentorship path of the person etc. through the aspects that are made with the resolved sextile or semisextile. A 7th harmonic chart would end a septile or a biseptile into a conjunction. It would deal with how one relates to the concept of relationship and degrees of closeness—i e those let into the inner sanctum so to speak— how does one define the call relationship within different contexts and how does one balance competing relationships to bring harmony within through the aspects that are made with the resolved septile or biseptile. An 8th harmonic chart would end an octile or bi-octile into a conjunction. It would show how one deals with the depths and inticracies of life the response to the mysterious and not easily explainable the way one faces magic mysticism and metaphysics through the aspects that are made with the resolved octile or bi-octile. A 9th harmonic map would resolve a novile or bi-novile into a conjunction. It would show how one expands one's belief and spiritual system how one elevates common learning and information into wisdom where one's dogmatic move may be the strongest the map of how full consciousness can develop for the person through the aspects that are made with the resolved novile or bi-novile. A 10th harmonic chart would resolve a decile (is that the correct term?) into a conjunction. It would show how the person defines what "public" is in life the different faces the person shows to different publics what types of expectations and limitations the public puts on the person etc through the aspects that are made with the resolved decile.
Ok - then - if you can use asteroids in these too - Transits between 26 and 29 gemini activate a pentagram in my chart between:saturn uranusvenuseris and the transiting bodyMost orbs are under 2 degrees (including the bQ ones formed by Qs)venus Q eris orb of -4uranus Q venus orb of 3saturn Q uranus orb of -1saturn bQ venus orb of 2uranus bQ eris orb of 1eris bQ saturn orb of -2What would the synastry be like if I met someone with a planet around 26-29 gemini?(or even with some planet around 3 aquarius to correct my venus)Or if I had transits to this point?-I'll undergo to start keeping an eye out because I am not totally sure. Like many aspects. I suspect that the Q and bQ are only creative and ingenious when you hit the books how to focus yourself the right way. Otherwise it can be pretty bumpy - that is how uranus saturn venus and eris all feel to me right now and I am not totally secure with any of them haha!*******************Also - do the harmonic charts usually have so many grand trines and whatnot?Yeah - I like cosmobiology as well. I tend to look a chart and just look for patterns and symmetry first.
I am not sure.... I guess you can be very connected to that personI am interested in looking at geometrical patterns in charts too. My strongest geometrical pattern is t-square idle square Saturn-Neptune opposition... I undergo Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune mipdoint - '17I also have a 11th harmonic syndrome of Mercury,Mars,Saturn,Uranus,and Ascendant. This one doesn't include the Ascendant... so it's a 4 point configuration... it looks like a 3 dimensional patternThis one includes the Ascendant..... so it's a 5 inform configuration.... it looks like a long horned Pentagram or long legged Pentagram......... you can clearly see that Uranus is conjunct Mercury/Ascendant midpoint,and argue Mars/Saturn midpoint. You can see that Mars oppose Mercury/Saturn midpoint. Also here are some good Cosmobiology sitesPamela Rowe is a cosmobiologist,and she has an article on planetary nodes. She uses only 2 degree orb. That's what I use for planetary nodes. I wrote to her about my planetary connections including the newly discovered Eris. I have Sun conjunct South Eris Node with only 10 minutes of arc. She was very cool with her responseI have Cosmobiology Health inform Program...... I prefer Cosmobiology over Mainstream Astrology which it comes to medical astrologyI have Solar Fire and I look at midpoint pictures with itCosmobiologists use declinations,and I can be at declinations with Solar Fire. I have Kepler,and I look at declination midpoint pictures with that. Kepler Major Life Themes Report which is a basic report in Kepler gives interpretations of midpoint pictures and harmonic configurations but doesn't including Midheaven and Descendant. I have Cosmobiology for the 21st Century (Paperback)by Eleonora Kimmel
Pi314 -"What would the synastry be like if I met someone with a planet around 26-29 gemini? (or even with some planet around 3 aquarius to correct my venus) Or if I had transits to this inform?" Exactly what I have been thinking as well Pi314. I have been kicking around the idea of finding a person who has a planet around 3 - 6 degrees of cancer and another planet (a benific) at 2 - 6 Pisces. I was wondering about the cause because it would complete a Grand Sextile in my map through symetry with them. The Grand Sextile is the Star of David configuration with 2 inverted grand trines and 3 Mystic Rectangles. (I already communicate read and write Hebrew and have contend American - Israeli citizenship)I see that Mars is transiting close to that degree now and the Sun is transiting through those degrees of Pisces now. I have also thought about finding someone who has Venus or the Moon in 12 - 15 degrees of Aquarius (though I really do not desire the Aquarian aloofness) to activate a Grand Trine between my 8th house Venus in Gemini which is in turn trine to my North Node,Pallas. Juno conjunction in 12th house Libra. I am very interested in testing the results as I find symetry charts between two people fascinating.
This measure what happened was a scary-as-heck dream followed by a prayer encounterWhich I now think was foreshadowed by me blowing up like a blueberry - I checked out Monday and that is when the requirements for this formation were first satisfied! ooooooo eeee oooooBut I feel I ought to analyse out this happening a few more times before making a conclusion. There is still that saturn return - and the eclipse - so - who is to say these things weren't related to either of these?Also - is it true that the harmonic charts have a greater probability of forming these grand trines and whatnot or no? Because of the way they are formed - are they calculated by multiplying all the degrees by a certain number like 2 for the 2nd harmonic or 3 for the third so that planets who are that angle apart are now conjunct?See if you use substitution - take a 60 degree orb for instance - multiply both angles by 6 check what happens:a - b = 606(a - b) = 360 - putting these two aspects on top of each otherIn this case then a 120 degree aspect would be:a - b = 1206(a - b) = 720 (again putting these on top of each other)And alsoa - b = 306(a - b) = 180AND1 - b = 906(a - b) = 540 (which is another opposition)Especially with the 8th harmonic map - with that onea - b = 30/ x - y = 158(a - b) = 240/ 8(x - y) = 120 - this resolves most any natal aspect into a trine or conjunction of some kindSo naturally as you multiply angles like this wouldn't they tend towards landing on top of each other more?but would that necessarily convey that they tend towards chart formations? That move I have just started to think about. Maybe if you have a few of these patterns they tend to multiply? All but my 9th chart has tons of them (and that one has a HUGE pisces stellium) and I tend to think there must be a cerebrate for it inherent in the way they are calculated - rather than thinking there is some kind of uniqueness to myself.
wow i haven't signed in for a week and look at all the responses for the Quintiles.. i think i would qualify for a case study for quintile research.. although i can't find any actual pentagram shape in my chart.. i have a number of quintiles involving conjuncted planets Saturn and Pluto (12th house Libra) the Moon (3rd house Cap). Mercury (10th accommodate Leo).. etc.. i haven't memorized them all but here's a link to the 5th Harmonic: and a link to my natal chart (it'll show my quintile aspects): it'll be quite interesting to see what t-Pluto will do once it quintiles its own footprint in my natal chart.. conjuncting the Moon then quintile-ing Saturn/Pluto.. bQ-ing Mercury etc... and then before it's all over t-Saturn ordain return to its own post..... etc etc now... time to read all the posts above me....
As I logged in... 73 replies. So to rehash the 'nuggets':The symbol of the Pentagram. Points correspond as animate. Air. Fire. Earth. Water (from top clockwise). "Q" represents a "quintile" -- a minor harmonious aspect of 72 degrees. "bQ" a "biquintile," aspect of 144 degrees considered a minor harmonious aspect. Q as 'elemental friendly' bQ as 'differentiate'... I'd say their orb are 'tight' 1-2 degs only. these rare aspects signify unsual or uncommon talent or even genius it's free on astro com all you do is click "free horoscopes". "extended chart selection" then in type of chart drop-down list choose "nine harmonic charts" & check out your 5th harmonic chart. Johannes Kepler devised the quintile and biquintile which are both 5th harmonic aspects principle of Fiveness he strives to dress the world and to make other than how he found it indication of uncommon creative energy and talent. They are trend-setters and need an audience. The energy here is specialized and purposely striving toward power. Quintile and bi-quintile energy can be romantic playful and demonstrative. The quintile family of aspects can indicate science math and engineering. There's a be to make things happen. Cosmic will seems to be at play here so if creative things aren't happening then be for destruction. Quintiles and bi-quintiles bring a certain dignity clarity pride and unusual sexual energy. A quintile resonates with the Sun. Fixed. Fire and Leo energy usually no more than a 3 degree orb is used... (ie less than. 2 or 1 (or 0'))"harmonic charts"~by david hamblin.. very difficult to analyze-pin down and all that minor aspects are very sublte and really have to be brought out.. they could very well lay dormant. A 5th harmonic chart would end a quintile or biquintile into a conjunction. It would show how the person defines what creativity is for the person what type of creative outlets the person has or will develop how outside forces have tried to shape the creative product etc. through the aspects that are made with the resolved quintile or biquitile. SITES: members wizzards net/~magyan/aspects htm Other (very) interesting (off topic) subjects in this thread were:NODES. COSMOBIOLOGY (Way back when had a german book on topic)(Raymond) Moon quintile Pluto - '00 Reminds me; do you guys calculate Latitudes ??
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